Tuesday, February 10, 2009

INTRA-CHCH BAND/LABEL CONFLICT


Mark "Darkwave" Enright 

vs.

 Jonathan "Ice Man" Chillips



"Jonathan sent me some of his most recent demos. And they were beautiful. And then he just does that shit. And it makes me really sad."

"I still think he's a coward."

"oh well, I guess he'll grow up." Mark "Emotional S&M" Roberts, overheard at Mount Pleasant CALH09 performance


All of this was said while Mark was wearing a teeshirt of his own band/musical project, "the enright house" which are signed to the same label that my music, the mount pleasants. I don't think I need to justify the live performance of my band/self to anyone, just like I wouldn't require mark to justify his live performances.


All I want is a fist fight with Mark Roberts.


Physically, i know Dark Horse Roberts could take me in a fight, I only weigh 63 kilograms and can only speculate how much Mark Enright-Roberts weights, probably more than me. While I have developed some muscle from working in a printing factory, I know that my only hope would be to perhaps wear him out. I was a long distance runner for Canterbury in form two and still retain some of the fitness that I had then, I don't drink too much but then neither does he, and don't smoke, he does.

Emotionally, I don't know who is stronger. If you do a comparative analysis of Mount Pleasant songs, including my recent demos, with Enright House songs, both are pretty depressing, I don't know who is more "authentic".

On a professional level, I can't compete with the Enright House,

  • he has 2,796 friends on myspace, the clearest arbiter of popularity, I have 246.
  • while we both have songs about eletra, his one is called elektra (might possibly be about the spin off movie) and mine is "the eletra fanclub", his is really well recorded with professional sounding microphones and protools or something, i use a macbook microphone and garageband
  • he has his own website where he sells his music for real money, I have a blog where I release my music for free
  • his album got positive reviews from real music reviewers, my album got played at paris/texas on cashel street last sunday and got criticised for being "depressing" from shop girl Sophie
  • he is about to set off on a self/trust funded world tour, I won't be

So many locations for a fistfight,

Outside Java on High Street, pretty good place to threaten people

Woolston Workingman's Club, cheap drinks/league on the television/ good vibes all around

Papanui Tavern/outside Papanui Super Liquor, I saw a really good one where the kids got smashed up on the road, stopping traffic. The police didn't come to stop it because "it happens all the time"

Eurest Gondola Restaurant, pretty reminiscent of an action movie type location, envisioning amazing fight scene inside gondolas/on top of a gondola, or just inside the "time tunnel", probably need to make a pilgrimage back to the top tourist destination on the port hills, if you exclude the homes of both d. woods and j. chillips, Anyway, gondola, thanks for the memories.

Bird Room of the Canterbury Museum, pretty Hitchcockian circa Vertigo/The Birds, not many good fight scenes in those movies, but pretty good movies, well at least Vertigo is. Its a good place to get me in the zone to fighting the enright house singular. Probably couldn't take him and the other guy that works at the rock shop and doesn't know that much about samplers, "thanks for the help though".

"just want to be as immature as possible with my music aye, especially the live performance aye, because one day I will grow up, never want to grow up aye" J. Chillips, circa 2k19







6 comments:

Mark said...

In all fairness, I thought your first two songs were ace. The problem for me with what you are doing, as you well know from the many times we've talked about this before, is that you write this amazingly raw and emotional and intelligent music, then record it, then don't release it, and then play songs live that are, by your own admission, meant to appease the kids your own age.

Perhaps calling you cowardly was way too harsh, but I can't help feel that you are one of the most talented song writers I have ever heard, who essentially is too scared to play the real stuff live, as no one would dance / people would think you're weird / people wouldn't get it.

I just wish you would forget about what other people think and just play your music as you write it.

The music you sent me a few weeks ago matters man... a lot. It's pure genius, new, brutal, amazing. The stuff you're playing now is fine. Had you been any old band, I would actually think it was good. But as it stands, it's entertainment music. Fun stuff. The music you sent me can change people's lives, the music you're currently playing has no chance of doing so - and you know it full well.

Seriously though, it wasn't my place to say shit after your show. I should have known so much better.

Hope that sort of clarifies things a bit.

-Mark

smalltownboi77 said...

Don't listen to his bullshit excuses man you know that you need to fight this one. If this was Wanganui you guys would be in court proceedings for manslaughter by now. Stop being such pussies.

XOXO
smalltownboi77

Mark said...

Ha. Well if I ever see Jonathan again, I most definitely owe him the first swing ;).

Jonathan Phillips said...

I have on many occassions played the "real stuff" to audiences in small performances in living rooms to thirty people. I think that if I play with a band I should be making music with and for the band, rather than imposing my will upon a group of friends who wanted to contribute and make music collaboratively.

the music we made as a band wasn't even that fun for audiences. One song, best friend had a danceable beat. We played three new songs, and the rest were old things I had written solo. We never made a dance floor, we are not bang bang eche, we are not even the klap.

all the brutality and honesty that you found in those recordings were in the band, and the band was exactly how we wanted it to sound. not as entertainment, but as something we enjoyed making.

as it is I dont think music can change or heal people, especially not depressed songs about frances cooper.

Darian James said...

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul of everyone
Do you know what you want? you dont know for sure
You dont feel right, you cant find a cure
And youre gettin less than what youre lookin for

You dont have money or a fancy car
And youre tired of wishin on a falling star
You gotta put your faith in a loud guitar

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Gave rock and roll to everyone (oh yeah)
God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul of everyone

Now listen
If you wanna be a singer, or play guitar
Man, you gotta sweat or you wont get far
Cause its never too late to work nine-to-five

You can take a stand, or you can compromise
You can work real hard or just fantasize
But you dont start livin till you realize - I gotta tell ya!

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Gave rock and roll to everyone
God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul

God gave rock and roll to you (to everyone he gave the song to be sung)
Gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to everyone

God gave rock and roll to you (to everyone he gave the song to be sung)
Gave rock and roll to you, saved rock and roll for everyone
Saved rock and roll

I know life sometimes can get tough! and I know life sometimes can be a drag!
But people, we have been given a gift, we have been given a road
And that roads name is... rock and roll!

smalltownboi77 said...

I know you think that I shouldn't still love you,
Or tell you that.
But if I didn't say it, well I'd still have felt it
where's the sense in that?

I promise I'm not trying to make your life harder
Or return to where we were

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I know I left too much mess and
destruction to come back again
And I caused nothing but trouble
I understand if you can't talk to me again
And if you live by the rules of "it's over"
then I'm sure that that makes sense

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

And when we meet
Which I'm sure we will
All that was there
Will be there still
I'll let it pass
And hold my tongue
And you will think
That I've moved on....

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be